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guys - the los angeles times wrote a decent overview of msbl national on tuesday, telling how, when and where the league got started.
unfortunately, the reporter trudged the too worn path of portraying msbl as geezer ball.
on the other hand, it's nice to know that we can - if we're still upright and percolating - play the game when we're 89. (by that measure, our 75-year-old red rudliwiciz is just a kid.)
in fact, knowing that may be reason to try to make it to 89. - mike

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Diamonds Are These Guys' Old Friends//
By J. Michael Kennedy
(c) 2005, Los Angeles Times


Herbie Lewis was at his usual spot at second base, wearing
the spotless white uniform of the home team. He was a little
stiff in the morning chill, a little slow getting down on the
warmup grounders.Then again, that's to be expected from someone
at the extreme end of a trend. Lewis is 89, and he's senior man
on a team for which gray hair is more the rule than the
exception.

They've got paunches and they've lost a step or three, but
at least they've got the familiar game of their distant youth.
They get to face pitchers who still throw the curve and bring
the heat on a regulation diamond. And so they show up Sundays
all over the United States - guys who want nothing more than to
line one over the shortstop's head and, on a really good day,
turn two.

Nationally, an estimated 45,000 players compete on 3,300
Men's Senior Baseball League teams, and those numbers are
climbing by several thousand a year. There are now teams in
every major U.S. city, with the preponderance of them in
California, New York, Texas, Georgia and Illinois.

Nowhere has the MSBL become more popular than in California,
particularly southern California, where more than 300 teams
play between Santa Barbara and San Diego. And because it's
southern California, the games are played year-round, with most
local leagues holding tryouts twice a year to fill and improve
their rosters.

In October 1988, the MSBL held its first World Series at
several major league spring-training facilities in Arizona.
Thirty-eight teams and 500 players showed up for that first
tournament, which now bills itself as the largest sports
championship in the world. This year, 360 teams and more than
6,000 players traveled to Arizona for the tourney.

On a recent foggy morning in Santa Fe Springs, Calif., the
players were linked by a common thread. All had participated at
one time or another in a Dodger fantasy camp, then decided to
stop fantasizing and just play ball.

One was Don Schwartz, 61, a history professor at California
State University, Long Beach, who specializes in Holocaust
studies. Another, Jack Sills, 52, is a critical-care
neonatologist. And Bryan Cranston, 48, who plays the father in
the ``Malcolm in the Middle'' sitcom, was on deck for the next
game.

And then there's Lewis, described by his teammates as ``the
legend,'' the octogenarian-plus-nine who resents a pinch
runner, who's been to 17 fantasy camps and battled severe
midlife health problems before finally picking up a baseball
again at 72. In the files of the Baseball Hall of Fame in
Cooperstown, N.Y., he is duly noted for his longevity.

``God almighty, I felt like a kid again,'' he said while
sitting out an inning. ``I look forward to it. I can't wait for
game day. I don't sleep the night before. I pray it doesn't
rain. You meet so many wonderful guys.''

So it is with many others who see their Sunday games as
three hours of reprieve from their daily lives.

``And it's cheaper than bowling,'' said Dennis Swartout, who
runs a 42-team league in Orange County, Calif.

The tale of guys past their prime playing hardball has a
central figure in Steve Sigler, 56, who started what would
become a national senior baseball program two decades ago.

In 1985, he was coaching his sons' Long Island Little League
team when he realized he'd had enough of softball - the
conventional avenue for most players when their hardball days
are over. In Sigler's case, he'd hung up his spikes after a
year of college ball more than 20 years earlier.

As spring was approaching the next year, Sigler - father of
actress Jamie-Lynn DiScala of ``The Sopranos'' - placed an ad
in his local newspaper, Newsday, seeking players.

``I needed someone to play with,'' he said. ``Little League
inspired me to play baseball again.''

The response was enough to form four teams. Then a newspaper
story about the teams provided a major breakthrough. The story
mentioned an open workout for anyone interested in playing
baseball the next season. More than 250 players showed up.
Sigler was on his way.

``At the beginning, we were very fortunate that the press
thought it was novel,'' said Sigler, who 10 years later gave up
his day job to work full time for his Men's Senior Baseball
League (motto: Don't go soft. Play hardball). ``So in a year's
time we had a huge story in Sports Illustrated and USA Today. I
was on the `Today' show and `Good Morning America.' The
notoriety reached people who would never have known this kind
of league existed.''

The Sports Illustrated story included a phone number and
address for Sigler. Huge bags of mail began to arrive at his
doorstep. The phone rang off the hook.

Sigler's wife, Connie, learned that Tom Hayden, a onetime
California legislator and 1960s radical, was playing in a
baseball league in Los Angeles. Sigler called Hayden, and they
made arrangements for an East-West tournament.

Hayden had quit baseball after high school, but, like
Sigler, he'd caught the bug again when he coached his son in
Little League. He attended several Dodger fantasy camps before
finding an organized team dubbed the Hollywood Stars.

``I was seized by the desire to play again,'' Hayden said.
``I don't think that feeling ever really goes away.''

Hayden recently turned 65 and, despite a heart attack
several years ago, still plays baseball on weekends.

Most senior leagues are divided both by age and ability,
although most of the players have had at least some high school
playing time, said Jack Provost, who runs one of the Los
Angeles leagues.

But others made it all the way to the bigs. Two-time Cy
Young Award winner Bret Saberhagen plays in a league, although
officials prohibit him from pitching. Not that he even wants to
anymore. Saberhagen's mother, who shows up to keep score just
as she did in his Little League days, prefers to see her son at
shortstop.

``She loves baseball,'' Saberhagen said. ``She loves to
watch me play short.''

Having a team that's top-heavy in former pros doesn't mean
automatic success.

``I had five ex-major leaguers on my roster this year,''
said Mark Webb, who directs another league. ``But we finished
second in the league. The team that beat us were all
recreational ballplayers, but they were great for one night.''

Senior league hardball does tip its hat to the advancing age
of players. There are courtesy runners for those who can't make
it around the bases the way they used to, and unlimited
defensive substitutions are often allowed. It's also American
League ball gone wild - the batting order sometimes includes
multiple players who don't play the field.

But that does not dilute how seriously some take their teams
and their games.

``It consumes my life at this point, which is absolutely
fine,'' said Bob Sherwin, a lawyer and former college player
whose teams have won four MSBL national championships.
``Baseball has always been my true love - since I was a little
kid.''

Over time, Sherwin began to focus more on the World Series
than local competition. He put together teams of aging stars,
much like the elite traveling teams for young players. Now,
three-fourths of his players are from southern California, and
the rest live in places such as Milwaukee and Detroit.

Not all teams play at that level, or even close to it.
Leagues have divisions in which players who want to return to
the game can get started. Provost warns, however, that
returnees shouldn't expect miracles.

``I tell guys who were mediocre in high school not to expect
to be better players now,'' he said.

The game this day in Santa Fe Springs was not a pretty
sight. Routine grounders and fly balls were muffed, just as
they were next door where the Little Leaguers were playing.
Lewis didn't get the ball out of the infield. Neither did
Schwartz, who was not pleased with his performance.

But that didn't stop the history professor from telling his
best story about playing in the World Series earlier this year
in the 58-and-over category. He was facing former major league
pitcher Bill ``Spaceman'' Lee, who is noted for such wisdom as,
``Baseball's a very simple game. All you have to do is sit on
your butt, spit tobacco and nod at the stupid things your
manager says.''

Schwartz dug in, he said, only to have Lee deliver a
curveball that looked as if it would hit him in the head but
instead broke for a strike.

``So I turned to the ump and said, `That's the best
curveball I've ever seen in my life.' And the ump said, `Son,
that's the best curveball I've ever seen in my life.' ''

Schwartz's team went on to win, 18-5. The best hitter this
day was shortstop Paul Raymond, a 51-year-old lawyer from
Newport Beach, Calif., who went four for five and drove in four
runs.

As the game ended, he handed over his business card.

It was a laminated picture of him on the mound, dressed in
Dodger blue.



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thanx mike.
it's certainly a story we can attach our roots to.
we, in the cdmsbl, also started with 4 teams.
hope the local papers run it.

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